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  MSNBC    The Last Word    News/Business.  (2012)  

    November 13, 2012
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because florida is florida, and what it means in american national politics, florida will probably be exhibit "a" for what is wrong with the election system on purpose. it's wrong on purpose, because we know what needs to be done to fix the problems and it's not being done on purpose. but arizona, right now, is a hot and heavy contender at this well, we knew this was going to happen, but i for one, didn't know it would happen this fast. the republican party is now officially at war with the republican party. >> there's a battle brewing over the future of the republican party. >> a war of the worlds. >> republicans drown in a sea of spin. >> post election blues. >> within an echo chamber they lost.
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>> a time machine. >> they were able to create their own reality. >> this election won't be close. 300 plus for romney. >> 300 electoral votes. >> they were fleeced, exploited and lied to. >> mythology. >> conservative entertainment complex. >> feeding to mythology. >> they think of wombs and wackos. >> wackos, weirdos, and witches. >> have you grover norquist. >> mr. anti tax himself. grover norquist. >> the president elected on the basis he was not romney and romney was a poopy head. >> poopy head. >> he actually said that. >> grover norquist or grover from "sesame street?" >> the fiscal cliff. >> move into high gear this week. >> taxes on the table. >> that's a given. >> some could be splintering.
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>> we know there has to be revenues. >> they really won't i don't think. >> i think that's a given. >> that suggests compromise. >> republicans might blink on this. >> you don't have to compromise values to come to the table. >> if there was a mandate, it was a mandate to work together. >> america has clearly said they have had enough. >> newton malloy gingrich has been in politics 40 years. 40 long years. and finally -- finally -- newt realizes he doesn't understand america. >> i was wrong last week, as was virtually every major republican analyst. you have to stop and say to yourself, if i was that far off, what do i need to learn to better understand america? >> former bush speechwriter david frum knows who to blame for what happened at the ballot box last week. >> the conservative followers
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have been fleeced and lied to by the conservative entertainment complex. >> there are no republican party leaders. leaders are several appointed now. one of the self-appointed leaders fought back today. >> just as i predicted, ladies and gentlemen, wait until you hear the sound bites, this election was lost because of your host, rush limbaugh. i am the primary reason, there are others, but i'm the primary reason the republican party, and i am the primary reason the republican party will keep losing, until i am denounced by the republican party. the problem that the republican party gets into is misidentifying the reasons that they lose. >> yesterday, steve schmidt took up the cry against the
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conservative entertainment complex. >> too many swing voters in the country, when you hear conservative, they think of wombs and wackos. we gave up five u.s. senate seats in the last election cycle by people who were just out there. completely extreme. manifestly unprepared for the offices that they are running for. our elected leaders are scared to death of the conservative entire at the same time complex, the shrill and divisive voices, rejecting the social extremism of the republican party on issue after issue. >> one of the leading lights of the conservative entertainment complex, talk radio host laura ingram told politico blaming talk radio for the problems in the gop elite is hilarious and typical of people who want to continue to get paid to give bad advice to campaigns.
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right wing anti tax, anti government crusader grover norquist believes there is exactly one person to blame for the republican defeat and it is not rush limbaugh. >> we just had an election, and the house of representatives was committed to keeping taxes low. the president was committed -- elected on the basis he was not romney and romney was a poopy head and you should vote against romney, and he won by two points, but he didn't make the case that we should have higher taxes and higher spending. >> joining me now, one of the generals in the republican civil war, david frum, former george w. bush speechwriter and author of the "e-book "why romney lost and what the gop can do about it." and also david karnecki and crystal ball. what about the final points there? what about mitt romney?
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didn't mitt romney lose this election for republicans? >> mitt romney, of course, like any defeated candidate, partly the author of his own misfortunate. we have had six presidential elections since 1988, where the republican did not clear 50% of the vote. only once, 2004, did the republican get more than 50%. look at the previous cycles, and the republicans win five of the elections, including the defeat in 1966, 2.5% of the vote. you can make all kinds of criticisms of mitt romney, but barack obama is not exactly the second coming of franklin dell nor roosevelt either. he is a candidate that doesn't say thank you to people who vote for him. the president has built a stronger coalition, and the republican coalition has been in trouble for a long, long time. republicans look at elections like 2010 and 1994 where a third of the election for ate is over one state.
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and then they are surprised where they don't win when 16% of the election for ate is over age 65. >> what about the argument you will hear, which is romney was not a consistent conservative. had he been a consistent conservative throughout his political career and had had not flip-flopped to conservatism recently, we would have run our test with a solid conservative candidate, and you can't make the argument against conservative republicanism if romney was the standard bearer of that, because he was such a false standard bearer. >> i voted for mitt romney, and i like moderate mitt from massachusetts, and i am perhaps the last person with something good so say about romney care. i thought that was a good basis for a moderate appeal to the country. but what we got here -- i used this phrase before. the people who put the cement overshoes on romney's feet are
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blaming him for sinking. he was remade to a severely conservative candidate. it wasn't natural to him. he campaigned on a big tax cut, on the ryan plan, on interest rates are too low and ben bernanke is too loose, human life amendment for abortion. this was the platform given to him. now, people who follow politics extremely closely, who knew how they would vote a year ago, they may know that mitt romney is a complicated person with a lot of nuances, but people who tuned in late, they got that mitt romney was a generic republican, and that would force the country in default in 2011. they heard about the ryan plan, the human life amendment and they voted no. they reflected what they heard from romney's mouth, not what was in his heart.
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>> crystal ball, from where you sit, can the republican party possibly make the moves that david seems to be suggesting that they have to make on policy? in order to appeal to a larger constituency? >> they certainly can. i think it's going to be tough, though, because they sold the base on this idea you have to be ideologically pure, and you have to sort of change who the base is if you're going to get more electable candidates on the primary. i want to touch on something david said. the year that things shifted, before ronald reagan, he 70% top tax rates for top income earners. you had really powerful unions. had you major government abuses of power. now republicans have continued to move right, as democrats have moved right. you point out romney care. that is the basis for the president's health care reform. in a lot of ways, conservative ideas have won the day. we're no longer talking about 70% tax rates, but republicans
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in response to draw a really stark contrast have moved out further to the right. to move back to the center there, are policy differences, but it requires subtlety and nuances. but it's harder than yelling about death panels and socialism. >> the primary voters have been delivering tea party candidates and overthrowing some incumbent senate candidates, ending up with tea party candidates that absolutely cannot win as we saw in indianapolis. so as much as there are leadership questions involved, how do you get control of the republican primary electorate? >> for a party to be defined as cohesive and functional, they have to have the same thought. the problem is, if that the clip you played from limbaugh, the problem is in today's republican
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universe, there are powerful incentives for opinion shapers like limbaugh not to win elections. rush limbaugh did not need mitt romney to win to have influence, clout, and make money. in fact, he might have more influence, more clout, and make more money if mitt romney loses. and he's feeding talking points for the base. and there is a beautiful built-in excuse for a guy like limbaugh. run an election like there and romney can lose, and it can be that romney isn't conservative enough. or look at one like christine o'donnell in 2010, where they nominated the most conservative candidate and still lost, well, the party establishment abandoned the conservative candidate. either way, you can feed the conserve tiffism, and limbaugh can pit himself against the party establishment, and he doesn't need to tell the base, since he will win an election, and he needs to tell them that they feel good and fighting
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against the powerful, arrogant establishment. >> david frum, in your e-book, you talk about these members of the conservative entertainment complex, sean hahnity, steve ducey, fox & friends crew, rush limbaugh, how would you expect anything to change in the way that they cheerlead for conservative republican candidates? >> well, i don't know that they will change. but the -- the desire to win, as was just said. the desire to win is a powerful force. america benefits from having a two party system. politics become very zero sum and waking up to what the american electorate is really like, i hear again and again, talking to a contemporary just this morning. when we were young, 20-year-olds were the strongest part of the republican coalition. those of us who are 20 30 years ago is still the strongest part. we just got old.
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what are we offering to today's 20-year-olds? if somebody in 1980 said i should be republican because tom dewey is a hell of a guy, i would barely know who tom dewey was. we are separated today from ronald reagan as i was from tom dewey. there is so much about republicanism and conservative that is compelling and that is appealing to people of all kinds of ethnicities, men and women, sexual orientations of every variety. americans are entrepreneurial, workers, savers, and want the message, but don't want to be told that they belong to 47% that doesn't count. >> david, a real fight on your hands within the republican party. david frum, author of "why romney lost," crystal ball and steve kornacki, thank you for joining me. coming up, the first battle
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that will be fought in the republican civil war will be over taxes and some republicans are already sounding like liberal democrats on that one. carolyn finney and jonathan capehart will join me. sex, lies, and e-mail brought down the director of the cia. tonight, the story is getting stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigators, and within the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' former mistress. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh...
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the first big battle in the republican civil war will be over taxes and some republicans
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are quickly finding their way to agreement with the president. yes, to raise taxes on the rich. that's going to be next. and, later, the fbi has just conducted a search at the home of paula broadwell, the woman david petraeus has admitted having an affair with. a lot of new developments in the case. stay with us. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby.
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of dissent is allowed. taxes. >> rates are going up for everyone on december 31st if nothing happens. if you think republicans can win a showdown on preserving all the bush tax rates against a president who just was re-elected on just raising rates on millionaires, good luck. i don't think it's winnable. again, republicans will cave. >> the influential conservative editor of "the weekly standard," bill kristol, is facing the republican civil war. >> what were the top marginal tax rates under reagan? 39% by it's will not cripple the economy. >> rush limbaugh is trying to fight back, but it doesn't sound
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like he has much fight in him. >> do the democrats after losing elections, ever say, you know what? we're going to have to cut taxes if we are ever going to get back in touch with the american people. they don't. they don't. we, on the other hand are the exact opposite. we start making tracks to abandoning our principles and loyalists as fast as we can. all to precede them. >> "the new york times" reports on a conference call with house republicans a day after the general election, john boehner said they would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases, but on sunday. bill kristolly to republican house members it's not just them versus the president, it's them versus history. >> i think republicans will have to give in much more than they think. four presidents in the last election vo won 50% of the vote
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twice. roosevelt, eisenhower, reagan, and obama. republicans in the house will be able to get some concessions, but i think there will be a big budget deal next year, and it will be much moran obama budget deal than paul ryan budget deal. elections have consequences. karen capehart, did you expect anything this big this fast? bill kristol is influential with republicans in washington. i'm stunned with what i'm hearing? >> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is
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bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said in the past, that higher rates will kill the economy. there is bill kristol pointing out how we've done perfectly fine under higher rates in the past. >> what he's trying to get through to republicans, particularly the new class that came in in 2010, okay, you campaigned on all of these promises, but now it's time to govern and things have come to a standstill in washington over the last two years, and now with the fiscal cliff or fiscal curve coming, and the president being re-elected with more than 50% of the vote, it's time to make a deal. and everyone knows that in order -- that the real deal that economists will view as serious has to be a balanced approach, a mix of cuts and revenue increases. >> and, karen, it is a fiscal curve.
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i have officially renamed it the fiscal curve on the show. and by the way, we're soliciting the audience to have new designs for fiscal off the curve buttons here and we'll have that as soon as our artists and audience come up with. it happens quite frad you'lly, a little slope, and when we go off it, which i expect we will in the first week of january. nothing big will happen if the first month and it gives the congress plenty of time to rush a solution into place, which i think is the only way that we'll actually make sense to get the democrats the solution they need. >> i think that's right. i think the contours of a deal are out there. now that the republicans are acknowledging that math equals math, which i think, again, the election helped to prove, we're able to have a grownup conversation about these things. look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same
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position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. now,ere's one that will ke you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg.
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there is breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus. the fbi just conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell, within the hour we will have the latest details on that next. and later in the rewrite, a big, big win for the legalization of marijuana. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too.
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fbi agents are currently at the home of paula broadwell. wcnc-tv in charlotte are reporting that agents arrived at broadwell's home at 9:00 p.m. and took boxes and suitcases and photos from the foam. a spokeswoman confirms the report and says it's a consensual search and not a raid or "a game changer." the fbi official says it is one of the final steps to closing out their investigation of broadwell. also tonight, "the wall street journal" reports new details how the federal bureau of investigation handled the case suggests even as the bureau delve into mr. petraeus' personal life, the agency had to address questionable conduct by one of its own, including
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allegedly sending shirtless photos of himself to a woman involved in the case. that woman is jill kelly, a family friend of petraeus, who first brought to the fbi's attention troubling e-mails she was receiving from an anonymous e-mail account operated by paula broadwell. we heard from the ghost writer of broadwell's biography of petraeus. he says my wife says i'm the most clueless person in america. lobe says he never knew of the affair, despite working with broadwell for 16 months. i assumed given how public their relationship was he would never engage in risky behavior. he always preached to proteges, is character is what did you when no one was watching and he
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would hasten to add from his most public of perches that someone is always watching. there was no protege more ardent than broadwell. senator dianne feinstein is growing ever more concerned as the story develops. >> generally, what we call the four corners, the chair and rankings of both committees are briefed on operationally sensitive matters this is certainly an operationally sensitive matter. but we weren't briefed. i don't know who made that decision. and i think, you know, that makes it much more difficult. since then, it's been like peeling an onion, every day another peel comes off and you see a whole new dimension to this. so my concern has actually escalated over the last few days. >> joining me, john meacham,
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author of "thomas jefferson: the art of power" and jane mayer of "the new yorker." we have been told that broadwell has been cleared, but yet as we sit here, the fbi is completing a search of her house. why would they be searching her house if they have already concluded there is nothing criminal here? >> well, petraeus is cleared as well. i mean, there are many strange aspects of this investigation. and lots still to know. but i have to say, one of the things that i think is really troubling is why this investigation ever became what it is. why did it even take off. why is it public? apparently there have been several reports have come out late today, saying that the squalled threatening e-mails that were sent, it turns out
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from paula broadwell were not terribly threatening in the first place. they were kind of in the order of sassing this other woman jill kelly and basically telling her to back off a little. but the fbi in tampa that first looked at it, they were really not sure they wanted to get into this thing, because the federal bureau of investigation, snooping into private citizen's e-mail is a very big deal and there ought to be a very high threshold before the government starts looking at private e-mails. it's troubling, but then you find out more and more about the agent that started this probe. turns out to be friends with the woman who came to him and has sent shirtless pictures of himself to her at some point in their relationship. i don't know what that was about, but the agent is now under investigation by the office of professional responsibility at the justice
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department or at the fbi. there are just a lot of questions about whether this was an appropriate investigation in the first place, let alone with what happened to him later and then "the new york times" has just come up with a story that suggests that this agent that started this again had a really strong political point of view and thought there was some coverup protecting obama, and he wanted this out fast, and it seems like he wanted it out before the election. >> well, john meacham, my sense of what was at stake in this investigation of interest to the fbi was simply that these e-mails were concerning the director of central intelligence and the attentions and interests of the director of the central intelligence agency, it seems there is some minimal threshold met for fbi curiosity at that point. >> i think whether or not there was vulnerability.
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jane has a very fine piece on "the new yorker" website, and it asks whether vulnerability and blackmail is sort of an outdated topic at this point and concern. however, i will say when you are in the midst of a story and the words shirtless e-mails and nighttime visits by the fbi, you are not in a good place. it's kind of a personal rule of mine. and so when i -- the howard baker question i want to know, i agree with jane about what triggered this. it's sounding more and more like a field office that perhaps did not goo do things the way they should have one would speculate. but to what extent -- what did the attorney general know and when did he know it? if this was kept from the pez, as it appears to have been, as senator feinstein said, who decided that? the cia director, once this is in motion, why was this information not -- or who was
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making the decision on how widely to share the decision? >> i -- i spoke with somebody over at the justice department about it today, and i'm not sure that they made the wrong call on this. again there, is a lot going on in this story that people don't know, so it's very hard to have a -- a completely firm view on it, but the rules of such investigations, a criminal investigation are that you keep it quiet until someone is -- until there are charges brought there, are innocent people whose reputations can be hurt and there are tremendous privacy concerns, and even for people high up in the government, there are privacy concerns, so i'm not sure it was the wrong thing for the fbi to keep this away from the political people in the
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administration. it's a very delicate question about what they should have done. in some ways, i think that it makes me wonder -- wouldn't it have been better if petraeus had gone to the president himself? or to the head of national intelligence at a certain point and said i'm -- i'm under investigation and i did these things? that might have been sort of the more valorous way to go. it's very touchy what the justice department -- when the fbi is investigating someone, especially someone who turns out to be innocent, you have to really be careful. >> well, yeah, jane and that's harkening back to the j.ed edgar hoover days, where he was doing an investigation on everyone. but it's a good point about petraeus' own responsibility to possibly bring this to other's attention without an investigation. the sense i'm getting at this point, a man whose life had become out of control, especially for the purposes of doing the job of cia director. sure, he could have done a lot of other jobs in this world by
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having a girlfriend complaining to some other woman that maybe she's paying too much attention to a guy that she's having a cia director with. when you have that kind of guy in the middle of the triangle, what the president was presented with is a man whose life is too much out of control to run the agency. >> it certainly seems that way. again, it's not -- far from an ideal situation it's safe to say, but i take jane's point about the complexities of this, but this is part of what mystifies me is that the chain of command on this. and also, what -- the triggering event and it sounds more and more that this might be politically motivated and so, if, in fact, one of the early agent has a political motivation, then how does that play into this. and i do think the election
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timing on the notification, given that -- that once it happens, whether it should have happened or not, or whether it should have been talked about widely in the government, once it was discussed in the government at what point was there a wise decision made not to announceded before the election because of benghazi and other questions? that seems to be one argument. the other argument is that things should have been handled more directly. >> jane mayer, john meacham, thank you for joining us. >> thanks. thanks to voters in the state of washington, prosecutors are dismissing cases against people who possessed marijuana, even though the law doesn't going into effect until next month. if you are one of the millions of men who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy.
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i'm not talking about those people tonight. i'm talking about people who could have easily voted and didn't. they include some people who kind of, sort of, mean to vote, but don't get around to it on election day from a variety of reasons to flat tires, to name it. including some legitimate last-minute reasons. another sizable group that don't go out and vote are those who live in intensely red or intensely blue states, where there is absolutely no doubt where the electoral college will be. another group believes there is no big difference between democrats and republicans, that group thinks voting doesn't matter, ever. they are in a word, wrong. there is a huge difference between the democratic candidate for president and the republican candidate for president, on whom they would select for supreme
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court justices and that is a difference that can have an important affect on our lives for generations to come. there are, of course, about 1,000 other reasons to vote for president. but if none of them move you, then there are always some local issues that have to be resolved on state ballots. now, you saw how complicated some of those can be when i filled out my california ballot, right here on the show with the former california governor gray davis, because i couldn't do it myself. in washington state, initiative measure number 502, to legalize marijuana possession, up to an ounce, for people over the age of 21, was on the ballot. 1,549,928 voted yes for legalizing marijuana in washington state and instantly changed some lives in the process. the measure won 55% of the vote, and days after the election,
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washington state prosecutors in two counties immediately began rewriting the charges against people who have been arrested for marijuana possession. they now intend to charge them with nothing. prosecutors are now taking action to dismiss charges in all of these simple marijuana possession cases in their jurisdictions. king county prosecutor dan sauterberg will apply the law retroactively to those defendants react arrested before election day. although the effective date is not until december 6, there is no point continuing to seek criminal penalties for conduct that will be legal next month. about 40 cases have been filed in king county which is seattle. those 40 will all be dismissed, and another 135 cases that had not yet been formally charged in
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court will all be dropped. in pierce county which includes tacoma, prosecutor mark linquist said he was dismissing four dozen cases of possession of marijuana. he said the people have spoken through this initiative, and as a practical matter, i don't think you can sell a simple marijuana case to a jury after this initiative passed. in an interview with "the seattle times," the king county prosecutor said i think when the people voted to change the policy, they weren't focused on when the effective date of the new policy would be. they spoke loudly and clearly that we should not treat small amounts of marijuana as an offense. allison holcomb who was the manager -- campaign manager of the campaign to decriminalize minor marijuana possession said she was "incredibly moved" by satterberg's emotion and said
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the prosecutor showed "incredible courage." more than 220 marijuana possession cases instantly dismissed. more than 220 lives saved from criminal records. allison holchomb is right. it did say some courage for prosecutors to decide to drop those cases and it took wisdom. the collective wisdom of voters to make that happen. 1,549,928, washington state voters, improved the lives of people, instantly. by voting. when people tell you that voting doesn't matter, tell them to talk to those 220 people in washington state who won't be dragged into court for possession of a little bit of weed and tell it to thousands
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people gathered around the world on saturday to celebrate what the united nations declared malala day for the brave 15-year-old pakistani girl shot on her way to school by the taliban after speaking out in
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favor of education for girls. as doctors prepare for her next rehabilitative surgery at the british hospital where malala is being treated, released a new video, showing the progress of malala's recovery. she is out of her hospital bed. she is sitting up right. malala's father had a message to the world for the outpouring of support for his daughter. >> i'm awfully thankful to all of the peace loving well wishers of malala who strongly condemn the assassination attempt on malala, who prayed for her health and who support the grand cause of malala, which is freedom of expression. we deeply feel that the heartfelt good wishes of all caste, creed, and color. malala is recovering well and wants me to tell you she has
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been inspired and humbled by the thousands of cards, messages and gifts that she has received. that helped my daughter's survival and stay strong. her voice is the voice of the people of pakistan and all down trodden and deprived children. if today her voice goes unheard, then coming generations will go without basic human rights and sublime values. >> joining me now is the man who created a now famous 2009 documentary about malala. adam v.malek. adam, there is a movement for malala to receive the next nobel peace prize. 100,000 people have signed a petition at change.org calling for that. what would -- and the deadline for the nominations are february 1st. what -- what would it mean for
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malala's cause around the world. and what would it mean in pakistan where you spend so much time working for her to be nominated for the peace prize and possibly winning it? >> i mean, the -- one of the most amazing things that's come out of this story is just the -- the amount of attention that malala has received worldwide, but in pakistan, the change we've seen is remarkable. this is a country that has a severe female education crisis, and a pretty silent problem for a long time. and since the shooting, and we're still seeing as we saw it over the weekend with malala day, the country is rising up and showing a tremendous amount of support in honor and nudging its government, not just in honor of malala, but nudging the government to see more women educated in pakistan. >> and the -- what has been the
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effect of malala day? the united nations taking it up to that level? >> so gordon brown, the u.n. education envoy, brought a million signatures to the desk of president zardari in pakistan, and complemented by a million more signatures of pakistanis, and the message is simple enough. it's time to create a solution that can educate women. what does that mean? when we talk about girls' education in pakistan, we're talking about a country where one in five girls are going to school in the region where malala is from. and we're talking about a country with the lowest rate of female illiteracy in the world. it's time for the government to focus on it with a lot more attention. to give you a quick example, the government currently spends 2% of its gdp on education.

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